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March 22, 2009 at 9:21 pm #111900
SuzAndTheDiva
Memberhow long have you had the fish – got any other fish?
March 22, 2009 at 9:23 pm #111901Foxisle_crazy
MemberI think they just eat flake food 🙂
March 22, 2009 at 9:30 pm #111902dogloverwoooo!
MemberHow can a mummy fish have babies without a daddy fish?! :confused: :whistle:
March 22, 2009 at 9:32 pm #111903kerrie and stan
Memberive had the pineapple swordtail since sept and i did have a male with her but he died in oct, the only other fish i have in the tank are 2 x scissortails and a pleq so i think the babbies might be crossbreeds :blindfold:
i thought they might eat flaked food but thought i would ask just in case ;D
March 22, 2009 at 9:34 pm #111904.dodger.
Member😀 😀 i was thinking just that Anna – forget puggles and labradoodles bring on the crossbred fish :yes: >:D
March 22, 2009 at 9:41 pm #111905Member😀 ;D ahh that explains it!
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😀 😀 i was thinking just that Anna – forget puggles and labradoodles bring on the crossbred fish :yes: >:D
[/quote]glad i wasnt the only one ;D
March 22, 2009 at 9:53 pm #111906Member😀 😀 😀 very good laura ;D
March 23, 2009 at 8:04 am #111907kizkiznobite
Memberas diesel not about i will answer….but…def something fishy going on here ;D….swordtails are live bearers and have fry scissortails are egg layers …guess she was preggy before the male died…though i think normal gestation is 6 weeks….have you got them in an isolation box…and yes they eat flake food…the mums often die after breeding so if she showing stress i would isolate her too…they the first fish i ever bred…
plecos are hard to breed…they need a ‘cave’ also egg layers though and the male is very protective and they need peace and isolation to hatch the egs as well as water control and constant monitoring of the water acidity…March 23, 2009 at 9:11 am #111908Member😀 😀 love the fish punn
i wasnt intending to breed fish so i dont have the proper kit, however the babies are in a makeshift isolation pen made from a butter pot. the mothers fine, the only time she goes off on one is if shes found a baby then she will chase it. i didnt know pleqs required so much to breed, i only have one pleq so unless that one is a miracle fish aswell 😀 i dont think i will get babbies from it.
how long do the babbies take to grow?
You are amazing Bev ;D first your knowledge on dogs and now your knowledge on fish ;D
March 23, 2009 at 9:20 am #111909Membershe chasing so she can eat it :hungry:
for a couple of quid you can get a small plastic isolation box that allows the water to filter through…they need oxygenated water and water filtered light…constantly …or they wont survive…how many babies have you rescued…they will grow fairly fast in a couple of months they will look like young adults but the males take ages to mature into full males…it used be be thought that femals changed sex but is now accepted this doesnt happen …just slow maturing males
i grew up with tropical fish…dad was a breeder and shower of angels, gouramis and cats/plecos but kept most types at some point…i have a huge tank and up to a couple of years ago i always had trops but we went on hols and the heater element blew and son didnt notice ::) lost 40 odd fish…now i keep cold water fish
March 23, 2009 at 9:23 am #111910Memberthis is the sort of thing you need…
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March 23, 2009 at 10:11 am #111911Membershe had eight babies when i first noticed them but ive only been able to rescue 4 of them although i am still keeping an eye on the tank incase they are hiding.
i get paid tomorow so will pop into P@H and pick one up, they should be ok until then shouldnt they?
March 23, 2009 at 10:18 am #111912Memberbless..the others prob got munched….average is about 70 but can have upto 100….you will have to keep changing the water in the butter tub with water from the tank…what air/filter system have you got…is it fairly powerful?…or is it a gravel filter system?
March 25, 2009 at 1:06 pm #111913Memberthe babbies are still alive ;D ;D for some reason this didnt show in my unread bit
ive now got a breeding pen for them instead of a butter pot 😀
the filter system is a standered filter nothing fancy and not overly powerfull but its only a little tank so it does the job, i think
March 26, 2009 at 1:52 pm #111914Diesel73
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How can a mummy fish have babies without a daddy fish?! :confused: :whistle:
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Yes they can :yes: , see female lifebearers can hold sperm internally from 1 mating up to 3- 4 even 5 months if you got a good male 😉 .Bev, i never isolate the youngens nore the mothers, but i got well planted tanks. So i breed like ànd leave it to, nature. But i breed per breedstraign, not selective 1;1. 😉
Those that are the fastest and strongest will survive. But one good female that is fully grown can give birth to up 80 even babies per month as Bev already said too. And usually about more than half of them survive to grow big if you got well planted tank.Some lifebearers can crossbreed if the belong to the same family. For example guppy x endler. But with pleco they will not as Bev explained.
quote :the mothers fine, the only time she goes off on one is if shes found a baby then she will chase it.She will eat it. Ever fed your fish waterflees? When the babies are born they look exactly like waterflees :-\ . The babies that are to slow yet bold enough get eaten.
I feed babyfish the same flake as grown fish but i first feed bigger fish and grind the last flakes between my fingers to vèry tiny flakes. The big fish will go for the bigger flakes and the tiny ones will are left for the babies. The babies will eat, not worry.
quote :how long do the babbies take to grow?In 2-3 weeks they big enough to swim like a fish. As soon as bigger fish can identify them as such they won’t be eaten anymore. May still be chased a little but not eaten no more. But my babies stay in the tank, and if you removed them at birth they might have to wait atleast 3 weeks to put them back into your maintank. Fish have a peckingorder too.
In 2 months you’ll have babyfish which are a small copy of the bigger adult ones. Colour, full colour won’t show until about 6 months. Dominant colours will show within weeks, sometimes even days, but brighter colours and marking can take much longer to appear. My black tuxedo’s show colour within 2 days, but my kingcobra’s and tuxedo green sunsets take much longer.quote :they will grow fairly fast in a couple of months they will look like young adults but the males take ages to mature into full males…it used be be thought that femals changed sex but is now accepted this doesnt happen …just slow maturing malesYup they grow slower BUT make no mistake they can breed when they are only about half their father’s size 😉 . With gups it’s easy to see, the females got pregnancyspots right from when they are about 3 weeks to a month old. That’s when i pick out the babymales, or they’ll start breeding too soon. Sordtails and platy little more difficult to see. But all male lifebearers have pogodium. Once the pogodium is visible (about 3 months, you can pick the males from the females. 😉
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she had eight babies when i first noticed them but ive only been able to rescue 4 of them although i am still keeping an eye on the tank incase they are hiding.i get paid tomorow so will pop into P@H and pick one up, they should be ok until then shouldnt they?
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It is good you don’t see them. I do want to see them be born, but than i don’t want to see them for the next 2 weeks. The less i see them, the more will survive 😉 .[quote author=kerrie and stan link=topic=13953.msg264426#msg264426 date=1237986387]
the babbies are still alive ;D ;D for some reason this didnt show in my unread bitive now got a breeding pen for them instead of a butter pot 😀
the filter system is a standered filter nothing fancy and not overly powerfull but its only a little tank so it does the job, i think
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I find Carbon bio filters are the best. They filter the nitrite and harmfull water elements.
I always go for stronger filter than tank needs, no tankwater can be to much clean.Kerrie? What Lnumber Pleco you got? Male or female?
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