Awful thing happened in park – what could I have done?

[kerrie and stan]

((higs)) widget, that must have been so awfull to witness :-*

[Mudgie]

I hope the dog is okay  :-*  I carried nacho when he had gastric torsion.  You get the strength dont know where from but you just do  ???  When BB broke her leg the fireman  p:-) couldnt carry her for very long (and she was only a pupster) I had to carry her back to car – when you care for them and have no choice – adrenaline and fear kick in and you just get on with it

Widget go around later and see if you can find the womans house.  Sure no matter what she could do with a hug  :-*  I hope the dog is okay

[kizkiznobite]

you all read the fred basset cartoons am sure…

when push comes to shove and no way or time to make a stretcher from clothes or blanket etc and no time to splint stitch etc or treat surface wounds…then dog around neck …fred basset style…it was a hot sunny day …the choice was either 2 topless middle aged woman running down a mountain with dog in a t shirt sling or around my neck with mo running ahead to open car and clear back seat…the decision was around the neck as that was quicker….

i always get mine to accept that lift ,,,position …and carry by training it in when they well….it then not such a shock to them when already in an emergency situation…ami is funny..if i say ‘lift’ she does oh doG do i have to….

if anyone wants to know how it’s done can post on here or put it in a sticky…

you will know if there is any after effect widget…next time you take him ..if he goes to area and sniffs ..watch his body language

[Izzie]

Yes please Bev  :agree:

[Kerry_and_Beau]

you did everything you could hun and you probably are in shock as well as having all the ‘what ifs’ tunning around your head, if it was your boy hunny you’d be amazed what you can do  :-*

i really do hope the lad is ok, but also don’t think he will be from what you have described ((hugs))

[Anonymous]

How awful for you…its horrid when something happens when you are in the wrong place to get help.  A couple of years ago we were at a dog show in the middle of nowhere and we turned up before most other people, We were playing ball with a few dogs and Ollie and one of his dog friends collided head first. Ollie came walking back like he was drunk and then collapsed at my feet, blood in his mouth and eyes vacant. I had no idea what to do and was in shock, a friend came running over and said just sit with him, talk to him, and someone else phoned the emergency vet. After what seemed like a lifetime he came round and we rested him for a few days, Vet said nowt to worry about but I’m extra careful now when playing ball with lots of doggies.
Hope you can find out what happened to him, Mudgie is right, the owner may well need a hug and it will give you some closure on the event. xx

[Anonymous]

Yes please bev – that would be useful  :yes:

I have phoned every vet in the area (she told me roughly where it was – and there are 3 options) and is none of them – although they were all v. nice and helpful.

I don’t know exactly where she lives tho  :-\ she pointed vaguely over to the buildings one said of the park… am going to see if I can find her – and ask other walkers if they know her.

[tri 'n snatch it bonnie girl]

hi,

could you perhaps put a note up somewhere ?

SP – i quite agree, i have seen one done and it was very scary indeed !!  I just said it might be an option – my baby first aid training even covered how to do an ET so I guess some people might feel confident enough ?? 

claire x

[kizkiznobite]

THE LIFT

First…before even considering this in an emergency situation then you will have hopefully remembered the info given in the first aid sticky and done what you can there and then or you really have no time to lose…gotta go now regardless of any other damage the lift may do in the hope that it saves the dog anyway by getting to a vet asap is where this kicks in…if you have time then on the spot first aid and the removal by a make shift stretcher is the best way…think there is info in the sticky about all that ..this is a last resort…please bear that in mind….

The final objective is to have the dog around the neck…fred basset style…shepherd with lamb/sheep style…nature will help you… you will find that the adrenalin kicks in and yep depending how fit you are  versus weight of dog is in ratio to how much you will hurt later…

It helps if you train this in so that

1) you know where your weakness is and can work on it and adapt your own body

2) dog understands what you are doing and therefore trusts you

but remember pain adds some and many a bestest dog will be pain aggressive so you also have to be prepared for a bite and take care to avoid that while also thinking about what you are doing…a cloth muzzle if you unsure…knickers/tights/walking socks are good for that

The way I was taught this is…and you go fast as you can…

Cue dog to lie on side
Get down on knees with face down and head into ribcage…dogs legs facing away
If another person with you get them to help you as you push head under belly by sliding/raising dog over your head onto back of your neck…while at the same time you position each set of legs over each shoulder…if you on own then it harder but can be done by lifting dog’s middle with head and hands …if it a cued behaviour and dog is conscious then dog will hopefully help…if dog is not conscious then just go for it…nothing to lose…if not a cued behaviour and dog is conscious then secure the legs by tying the feet together

Once dog is weighted around neck and legs are over shoulders up to pits then you need to raise your body weight onto knees with a forward motion/slide whilst at the same time lifting yourself into a full knee sit-up and holding dog by bum /hips and ruff/neck…not legs….get the hands higher up dog’s body…..keeping your own body weight forward from the top half of your body you can now go into a fast straight stand if you fit and able…been a while since I could do that in one fluid motion…or you do the one leg action and raise…once standing distribute weight…the art is not to restrict lung action  so dog needs to be slightly more offset

I had to practice with a full sack of saw dust for the motion etc before trying on a dog

It a bit hard to explain in type but if you try and imagine it as you read then I am sure will follow me…once I have caught up with stuf  will get Mo to film it with cubert…

[Val]

O Widget poor you poor dog, at times like this a run to the vet is your best bet.
As for it happening to a bigger dog as Bev says round the neck is best a lot of showdogs are taught this as pups (we sometimes have to take those white feet through muddy puddles at shows)
((hugs to you)) and white light to the little dog
Val

[tri 'n snatch it bonnie girl]

Hi,

I just wanted to add on the “be prepared for bite” – also be prepared that if you randomly wave your hands round near the dogs face in a panic that they may choose to grab onto it to help them get out of the pickle they are in, not biting per-se but still quite painful once the adrenalin has worn off lol !!!

It is not advisable to risk this if you need to then drive to get to a vets 😀 

*hugs* to you and Loki x x x x x

Claire x

[*Nat*]

Aww how awful Sarah, let us know if you hear anything, doesn’t sound too good though  🙁 {{{hugs}}}

[Mudgie]

print the sling thing and put it in first aid box in car – I used this when BB was pupster so I could take her on walks wiht nooch and me

[Anonymous]

Claire’s idea of a note is a really good idea! Am going to put a note on the park noticeboard.

Thanks all  :-*

Also thanks Bev for lift info  :yes:  Think is something should have done with Loki as a pup  :-\

Val just goes to show how useful show training is for all sorts of situations  🙂

[Sweetypye]

Bit pointless putting a note in a first aid box in the car when you may be several miles away from car is it not?

And if you have to stop and read destructions before you do something it sort of negates the concept :agree:

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