cause and effect – conscious choice or not…

[kizkiznobite]

nope..you aint going to ball roll me… ;D

[Anonymous]

pre-cognition says that its not a conscious choice …

[wags]

[quote author=GSPmad link=topic=11567.msg243143#msg243143 date=1222722303]
i had always been assured the answer was 42.  :-\ nick, how could you do that to me?  :'( ;D ;D
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i to was under this asumption

and as i am always right it appears Nick is wrong  p:-)

[*Nick*]

I may not always be right but I’m never wrong

The answer is 11.

[SuzAndTheDiva]

i thought the answer was always 11 too………………

[kizkiznobite]

dog gets into chair and the master and guest both comment on the self satisfied look on dogs face….

so…is a dog capable of looking ‘smug’  😀

[SuzAndTheDiva]

only what we interpret as smug i guess  ;D

[*Nick*]

ok, I’m just going to go with what i said in t’other thread…since we are humans and can only think in human terms…I will say yes, a dog is capable of “looking” smug. Whether they are smug is another question that probably can’t be answered.  These are quite difficult , perhaps impossible questions and situations doncha think?

[GSPmad]

[quote author=*Nick* link=topic=11567.msg243430#msg243430 date=1222944258]
ok, I’m just going to go with what i said in t’other thread…since we are humans and can only think in human terms…I will say yes, a dog is capable of “looking” smug. Whether they are smug is another question that probably can’t be answered.  These are quite difficult , perhaps impossible questions and situations doncha think?
[/quote]

You need to model yourself on the White Queen in ‘Alice Through the Looking Glass’ Nick: “Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”  ;D

[Anonymous]

hehe 🙂

I think dogs can definately look smug, cross, guilty … and all the other emotional labels we give them … i dont think it makes alot of difference what we say they “look like” personally as long as you remember that clearly they aint – they’re dogs, not people !!!

hmmm i wonder if dogs have pre-cognition … i wonder if anyone has done the testing … probably not these days but I bet Burrhaus and Ivan would have 😉

claire x

[*Nick*]

ya, I can’t wait until some bullsh#t scientist with a big research grant  tries to convince everyone that they’ve decoded, translated barks, whimpers, yelps and all those other endearing noises are pups make.

[kizkiznobite]

well….it would make an interesting debate nick  ;D

[Anonymous]

Nick – look at the work of Turid Rugaas she has done alot on wild wolf pack communication

also Gardner & Gardner, Terrace etc… and their work on primates (because they did have huge research grants).  I know its not dogs but I have done a paper on the primate studies 🙂

claire x

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