Foxhounds

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Well … the pack which live close to me that I used to see every single day would certainly have ripped a pet dog apart (even another non pack hound).  How do I know, because I talk to the people who look after them 🙂

When I last enquired, they did not re-home any hounds except as pups to other hunt packs and only then when really nessesary.

I watched them every single day on my way to work running as a pack (didnt have a choice – the pack took up the whole road lol !!)  and thought they were gorgeous dogs 🙂

Just as I would be very cautious about someone taking a working sheepdog into their home, i would be very cautious about whether a foxhound was right from good known breeding – let alone a stray pup from ireland (and too many irish dogs come here but thats another story..).

Claire.

[Sweetypye]

I am afraid that saying not all foxhounds would rip prey up because they live with a terrier is hardly proof.

Many dogs live with cats but will destroy any others from outside their “pack” with no qualms at all.

Foxhounds, like many other breeds, are not for everyone and as ALL breeds have particularl quirks and predispositions it would be foolish to state that foxhounds make always make great pets for anyone……….

[-Alison-]

reading through all these posts, reading both sides of the coin has given me an opinion too. I have come to the conclusion, that foxhounds are beautiful dogs and can, in the right hands be good house dogs, but they are not for the novice or inexperienced owner.

I think thats what everyone is trying to say, isnt it :agree:

[Anonymous]

A v. quick question….  I have never heard of hounds attacking other dogs – how common is that?  I ask because we always take our dogs (all of the ones from the stables) to the hunt and they happily sit and watch the pack move off etc.  There are always Jack Russells wandering about and they are fine with them.  I realise I am generalising because I only have experience with one pack of hounds and they are not foxhounds – they are harriers….

Here is Loki meeting some back in 2007 – they are 5 month old puppies:
[img width=468 height=351]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/sloulou/pets/IMG_0529.jpg[/img]

(ps. – I realise that Loki meeting puppies on the lead is not the same as meeting a pack in action- I just wanted to share my hound pic  ;D )

Also – I would not personally want one as a pet – think they are gorgeous tho  🙂

[Anonymous]

[quote author=widget link=topic=12560.msg246094#msg246094 date=1224510497]
A v. quick question….  I have never heard of hounds attacking other dogs – how common is that?  [/quote]

Very common if you are a fox, people seem to forget a Fox is a dog. How can they be expected to differenciate between species? If it’s the norm for Foxhounds to kill other dogs (Foxes) then i can’t really see what makes a domestic pet any safer by comparison.

http://www.realca.co.uk/pets.htm

Edit: It’s also worth pointing out that when hunting was banned one of the main arguments used by the huntsmen was that the dogs would all have to be destroyed because they couldn’t be rehomed. Why was that? What were they afraid of? You’d think they would be only too glad to rehome them rather than destroy entire packs, or am i missing something?

[Anonymous]

A fox isn’t a dog……   :-\

if it was then it would be able to breed with a dog….

I can tell the difference between a person and a gorilla…  surely a dog can tell the difference between another dog (that it could potentially mate with) and a Fox? 

Sorry – that is sort of an aside!

edited to add – please correct me if am wrong – am sure others know more…

[Sweetypye]

It is common it is a phenomenon known as prey drift and can affect all species including dogs and the chances increase with degree of arousal.

If a dog spots what it thinks it is chasing (in this case a fox) in the distance and when it arrives it suddenly turns out to be a WHWT it does not stop, say “oops” and turn around again……………….

It is usually cats but dogs have been victims too.

It happens to a lesser extent with police/security dogs if a person gets in the way etc.

[Anonymous]

[quote author=widget link=topic=12560.msg246097#msg246097 date=1224517415]
A fox isn’t a dog……   :-\

if it was then it would be able to breed with a dog….

I can tell the difference between a person and a gorilla…  surely a dog can tell the difference between another dog (that it could potentially mate with) and a Fox? 

Sorry – that is sort of an aside!

edited to add – please correct me if am wrong – am sure others know more…

[/quote]

A Fox is not a Dog?? Then what on earth do you suggest it is then? A Goldfish? Of course it’s a dog. Just because it doesn’t mate with domestic dogs does not mean it’s not a dog. I can’t believe you just said that.  :-\

[-Alison-]

Dont lets get too sidetracked here, to put all this fox/dog thing into perspective is this behaviour not exactly along the same sort of lines as greyhound attacking a smaller dog?  :agree:

I understand exactly what folks on here are saying about foxhounds, its all good, fair points. I think they are beautiful dogs to look at but they need a wise/experienced owner in order to see the best of them, yes?

edited to add I have just had a good look through the site that that link came from Mark  :-\ :'(

[Anonymous]

[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12560.msg246101#msg246101 date=1224518508]
A Fox is not a Dog?? Then what on earth do you suggest it is then? A Goldfish? Of course it’s a dog. Just because it doesn’t mate with domestic dogs does not mean it’s not a dog. I can’t believe you just said that.  :-\
[/quote]

What a rude response. I did not suggest it was a Goldfish.

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061019083932AAaaIKA

I can’t tell you how upset your response has made me. This place never normally affects me like this.

ETS: on my drive home have been trying to work out why I was upset and have realised it is your assertion that I am wrong – without backing up why you think you are right… 

Mods – I apologise for the diversion – please feel free to move this bit – is v. silly and off point.  FWIW a fox is not ‘a dog’ in my eyes. A male fox is called a dog fox, but a female is not called a bitch. And anyway cow and bull refer to more than one species – they are just names for the gender… I do accept that they are related but then aren’t the same species or genus. Anyway – Irrelevant to the original post – so sorry everyone.

[Anonymous]

I can’t begin to tell you how much you are completely overreacting and being pedantic at a throwaway comment. Good grief, there’s been a hell of a lot worse things posted on here than a bit of harmless sarcasm. You said a Fox isn’t a dog – what sort of response did you expect from such a ridiculous statement? It’s not a cat is it?

Yeah right, it’s all my fault you are upset.  ::)

[kizkiznobite]

it is not a dog…it is a fox

it is a canid…

there are no confirmed crosses with a dog
think some study on genus/family off etc

now kiss and make up…board has been a bit off of late lets try and get it back to norm…please…. :-*

[Anonymous]

I can’t at the moment Bev. I’m too upset and it’s all Widget’s fault .  :'(

[Anonymous]

[quote author=kizkiznobite link=topic=12560.msg246132#msg246132 date=1224524213]
it is not a dog…it is a fox

it is a canid…

there are no confirmed crosses with a dog
think some study on genus/family off etc
[/quote]

Fanks Bev  :-* – that is all I was trying to say xx

[SuzAndTheDiva]

Did tons of research on this ages ago – dont ask me why cant even remember and if i remember right a Fox is NOT classed as a dog not in the way wolves and some other dog like mammals are sorry Mark think thats what Sarahs trying to say  🙂  :-*

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