Pedigree dogs exposed 19th August BBC1

[Bevers2406]

Or dither and do nothing and then the Goverment have to step in…

[Anonymous]

Probably the biggest problem is the fact that the KC don’t usually partake in knee jerk reactions when really they should to things like this. There can be no question that the KC is in dire need of reform but this in my opinion is just the tip of a very large ice berg. As the owner of a persecuted breed I would be willing to put my neck on the line here and suggest that the pedigree dogs being bred by the ill informed & ignorant back yard breeders probably far outweigh the amount being bred to KC breed standards & registered as well as health tested.

When i was looking for a breeder i had 3 pages of phone numbers & out of that i narrowed it down to a shortlist of just half a dozen after speaking to each and every one of them it was quite clear who the responsible & ethical breeders were – in fact only one of them got a return phone call from me asking to be put on thier waiting list – the others went in the bin.

[Bevers2406]

Mark there’s no denying it is a huge mountain we have to climb, but we’ve got to start somewhere.

I’m more hopeful of change than I have been in decades.

There are 43 pages of comment on the BBc website now about this show… it’s jo bo public that have started to give a damn.

If I was KC Chairman (!) I’d be taking action today, then booking a TV ad campaign, getting a tv crew interested in the survival story and following all this up – this could be the start of re-educating the public on how to buy a dog. Crisis management, coudl be the making of them and that would be so good for dogs.

There a small window here where things could really turn around, let’s hope they don’t waste any energy in pretending these problems don’t exist and blaming each other for the way the show world was portrayed.

[Prem2Pram]

Read the Kennel Clubs response to the programme

[kizkiznobite]

http://www.skk.se/english/about_skk.htm

swedish KC info

[wags]

but you dont need to go to a “breeder” to buy a dog

and i will guarentee you that no add campain will make the slightest bit of diffrence to one hell of a lot of the public – it certainlly wouldnt round here or most of the other northern industry towns – why should they bother when Dave at the pub has a litter of rottie/staffy/dobe pups in his kitchen because thats the way it works – Simon isnt going to pay £400 for a pup when he can get one from Dave for a couple of pints

[lucysmom]

hello all.
I watched this documentary with great interest was horrified by the images of the cavallier and other dogs in pain.
the shock horror tactics and the use of the ugenics stuff was clearly put there to scare.

I feel that this show was very one sided, I know that good breeders can put breeding restrictions on their dogs. I have them on my Jessie she can not be bred from until all relevant health test have been done.

I feel that that is very acceptable to bring any dog into this world that might suffer needlessly is a crime in my book.
enough dogs have trouble finding good homes.

However the made it seem that the people did not care there are many breeds and only a few were highlighted.

Incidentally when I  began my search for a pedigree dog to show, I looked at many many breeds before deciding on a siberian husky. as they are a fairly  healthy breed that is still fit for purpose in that it can still pull a sledge.
although in the breed there are people leaning towards dogs that are too big and heavy to pull.

but if one thing comes out of this show, is that mandatory health checks on these very affected breeds are enforced and prehaps a change in the breed standard to allow more healthy stock to be shown.

I can only hope that this will happen. trouble is the good breeders are already doing this so where do we go.

Rachel

[Anonymous]

Wags that’s exactly why i believe that focusing solely on the KC & pedigree breeders is a flawed idea – as much as it looks good on paper there is far more going on outside it’s jurisdiction that is causing much more damage, reform of the KC itself will not reach the people who don’t adhere to it’s policies anyway.

I can see this subject bringing about a large amount of publicity & debate but i’m just not sure the focus is in the right direction when so much is going on outside of the world of pedigree breeders that is a hell of a lot more responsible for the inherited conditions we saw last night.

I’m afraid i am very cynical about it all because there is a much bigger picture that’s not really being brought to the attention of the public which the regulation of could go a long way to changing the mess pedigree dogs are heading for.

[kerrie and stan]

as they are a fairly  healthy breed that is still fit for purpose in that it can still pull a sledge.

but unfortunatly most of the dogs that are being shown can not do the jobs that they were origanly bred for and in my eyes that is wrong. i belive that in order for a dog to win ‘best in show’ or anything they should be able to do the job that they were originaly bred to do and not just to sit there and look ‘pretty’

[wags]

[quote author=Mark. link=topic=12209.msg237230#msg237230 date=1219224060]
Wags that’s exactly why i believe that focusing solely on the KC & pedigree breeders is a flawed idea – as much as it looks good on paper there is far more going on outside it’s jurisdiction that is causing much more damage, reform of the KC itself will not reach the people who don’t adhere to it’s policies anyway.

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i think we totally agree on that one

[Mudgie]

and what percentage of dogs on this earth are working dogs that do the jobs that they were originally bred for  ???  there would be very few entrants to any show if that was the criteria

sorry mudgie…in trying to multiple quote i b’d your post up  ::) a mod and still cant do that  😀

[Sweetypye]

No but they could do what they do on the continent and conduct a suitability for breeding test.

So eg Weimaraners that had no hunting instinct (and I have met a few) would not be bred from.

Unfortunately the vast majority of pet owners in the UK could not cope with a working bred dog…………

[kerrie and stan]

[quote author=Mudgie link=topic=12209.msg237238#msg237238 date=1219234799]
and what percentage of dogs on this earth are working dogs that do the jobs that they were originally bred for  ???  there would be very few entrants to any show if that was the criteria
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i am sure that there are quite a few dogs out there that are doing the job that they were bred for but we just dont see it.

perhaps it would be better to have few entries with good quality dogs than seeing hundreds of dogs with such poor condition and quality of life

[kizkiznobite]

and what percentage of dogs on this earth are working dogs that do the jobs that they were originally bred for    there would be very few entrants to any show if that was the criteria

but that isnt the point surely..that fact remains that the dog as per breed has a standard that should match the ideal of why it was developed that way in the first place 

[kerrie and stan]

that was what i was trying to say bev 😀 just you put it better than me ;D

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