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July 19, 2008 at 9:57 pm #67541
GSPmad
Member[quote author=*Nick* link=topic=12044.msg231211#msg231211 date=1216498034]
Dude what’s so funny!?!? 😀 ??? 😀[quote author=GSPmad link=topic=12044.msg231209#msg231209 date=1216497755]
[quote author=*Nick* link=topic=12044.msg231207#msg231207 date=1216497691]
The Wachtelhund is the last of the Stobers
[/quote]bless you. 😀
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[/quote]you sneezed. ;D
July 19, 2008 at 9:58 pm #67542GSPmad
Member[quote author=*Nick* link=topic=12044.msg231213#msg231213 date=1216498303]
Holy crap!! Gorgeous much!!!! :-*Wachtelhund
[/quote]they look a bit like german longhaired pointers. :-* :-*
July 19, 2008 at 10:00 pm #67543GSPmad
Memberno idea what group the SWD fits in – or the lagotto romagnola? ??? am farly sure they not HPR – the SWD was used more as a sort of fishingy retrievery type dog wasn’t it?
July 19, 2008 at 10:01 pm #67544Izzie
Member[quote author=GSPmad link=topic=12044.msg231232#msg231232 date=1216504809]
no idea what group the SWD fits in – or the lagotto romagnola? ??? am farly sure they not HPR – the SWD was used more as a sort of fishingy retrievery type dog wasn’t it?
[/quote]Not 100% sure, but think you are right :-\
July 20, 2008 at 11:18 am #67545Anonymous
GuestBoth members of the gundog group Lagotto is a Venetian/Romagnan dialect word meaning “duck dog” and the noted Romagnolo authority on the breed Gilberto Grandi describes them as “the Italian equivalent of the Irish Water Spaniel
Spanish Water Dog There are different theories as to its origin but the most accepted is that it was introduced by the Turks who traded in sheep and used them as sheepdogs. In Spain it is often called the ‘Andalusian Turk’.
It is also believed that there are strong genetic links with the French Barbet, spaniels, the poodle, the Portuguese Water Dog and that the Spanish Water Dog is an ancestor of the Irish Water Spaniel.
They were used as sheepdogs to move the flocks of sheep and goats from one pasture to another. They accompanied fishermen in their boats and would retrieve equipment from the water, bring in stray fish that had escaped from the nets, carry a tow rope to the shore for the boat to be pulled in and guard the catch once it was landed. These dogs would also be taken hunting and would be used as retrievers, particularly in water.
Val[quote author=GSPmad link=topic=12044.msg231232#msg231232 date=1216504809]
no idea what group the SWD fits in – or the lagotto romagnola? ??? am farly sure they not HPR – the SWD was used more as a sort of fishingy retrievery type dog wasn’t it?
[/quote]July 20, 2008 at 12:22 pm #67546wags
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Spanish Water Dog There are different theories as to its origin but the most accepted is that it was introduced by the Turks who traded in sheep and used them as sheepdogs. In Spain it is often called the ‘Andalusian Turk’.
the Spanish Water Dog is an ancestor of the Irish Water Spaniel.
They were used as sheepdogs to move the flocks of sheep and goats from one pasture to another. They accompanied fishermen in their boats and would retrieve equipment from the water, bring in stray fish that had escaped from the nets, carry a tow rope to the shore for the boat to be pulled in and guard the catch once it was landed. These dogs would also be taken hunting and would be used as retrievers, particularly in water.
Val
[/quote]AND they do flyball ;D
July 20, 2008 at 1:04 pm #67547Anonymous
GuestThey are nice dogs I shear three ;D quick and brainy but that coat takes some keeping
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[quote author=Val link=topic=12044.msg231255#msg231255 date=1216552685]Spanish Water Dog There are different theories as to its origin but the most accepted is that it was introduced by the Turks who traded in sheep and used them as sheepdogs. In Spain it is often called the ‘Andalusian Turk’.
the Spanish Water Dog is an ancestor of the Irish Water Spaniel.
They were used as sheepdogs to move the flocks of sheep and goats from one pasture to another. They accompanied fishermen in their boats and would retrieve equipment from the water, bring in stray fish that had escaped from the nets, carry a tow rope to the shore for the boat to be pulled in and guard the catch once it was landed. These dogs would also be taken hunting and would be used as retrievers, particularly in water.
Val
[/quote]AND they do flyball ;D
[/quote]July 20, 2008 at 1:13 pm #67548GSPmad
Memberso they would count more as retrievers then?
July 20, 2008 at 4:00 pm #67549Foxisle_crazy
MemberWe walk a SWD, he’s a bit crazy sometimes 😀
July 20, 2008 at 4:20 pm #67550Anonymous
GuestThe ones I do are lovely one of them is a rescue was only a year old a fear biter could not get near him for ages to take the coat off the owner and I worked on him for about three mths then one day he thought this is not going to hurt and away we went ;D he’s now a favourite he’s great with my girls loves running with the beardies.
He had been badly beaten as a youngster so am really pleased for the owners that he’s turned out so well.
I think they are a breed that could be nutty with the wrong owners they love to work and I bet if they don’t they could be a bit stir crazy
Val[quote author=Foxisle_crazy link=topic=12044.msg231278#msg231278 date=1216569610]
We walk a SWD, he’s a bit crazy sometimes 😀
[/quote]July 20, 2008 at 4:25 pm #67551Izzie
MemberThere used to be one at my agility club, was fantastic at it, and he loved it, did clicker training, HWTM, flyball, etc. Then one day he lost interest, refused to do agility, so they stopped coming. Was really odd :-\
July 20, 2008 at 4:48 pm #67552Anonymous
GuestHe loved the learning not the doing if they had taken him fishing and herding for a year he may have come back to it, if they did it all with a clicker thats the problem they get bored
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There used to be one at my agility club, was fantastic at it, and he loved it, did clicker training, HWTM, flyball, etc. Then one day he lost interest, refused to do agility, so they stopped coming. Was really odd :-\
[/quote]July 20, 2008 at 5:34 pm #67553*Nick*
MemberI was just trying to make a list of dogs that are actually called a spaniel….but this is interesting.
Here’s Wikipaedias definition of Spaniel
quote :Spaniel
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Jump to: navigation, searchMost spaniels, like this English Springer Spaniel, are medium sized dogs used to hunt small game.
The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, one of the smaller breeds, is primarily a lap dog.A Spaniel is a type of gun dog. Spaniels are generally small dogs with long coats and drop ears. Spaniels assist in bird hunting.It is desirable that Spaniels work within gun range, are steady to shot, are able to mark the fall and retrieve shot game to hand with a soft mouth. A good nose is highly valued, as it is in most gun dog breeds. They are versatile hunters traditionally being used for upland game birds, but are equally adept at hunting rabbit and waterfowl. Whether hunting in open fields, woodlands, farm lands – in briars, along fencerows or marshlands, a spaniel can get the job done.[1]
On the basis of function and hunting style, the Fédération Cynologique Internationale (FCI) draws a distinction between continental and Anglo-American spaniels. FCI places continental dogs of the spaniel type in the pointing group (Group 7, sect. 1.2) because they function more like setters which “freeze” and point to game. Breeds in this group include the Blue Picardy Spaniel, the French Spaniel, the Brittany, the Pont-Audemer Spaniel, and the Small Münsterländer. FCI classifies most other dogs of the spaniel type as flushing or water dogs (Group 8, sections 2 and 3).[2] [3]
Not much has changed about spaniels in general over the years, as can be seen in this 1921 entry in Collier’s New Encyclopedia:
Their distinguishing characteristics are a rather broad muzzle, remarkably long and full ears, hair plentiful and beautifully waved, particularly that of the ears, tail, and hinder parts of the thighs and legs. The prevailing color is liver and white, sometimes red and white or black and white, and sometimes deep brown, or black on the face and breast, with a tan spot over each eye. The English spaniel is a superior and very pure breed. The King Charles is a small variety of the spaniel used as a lapdog. The water spaniels, large and small, differ from the common spaniel only in the roughness of their coats, and in uniting the aquatic propensities of the Newfoundland dog with the fine hunting qualities of their own race. Spaniels possess a great share of intelligence, affection, and obedience, which qualities, combined with much beauty, make them highly prized as companions.
July 20, 2008 at 5:50 pm #67554GSPmad
Memberwas looking for something utterly different but….
http://www.canadasguidetodogs.com/boykin.htm
never heard of them before!
July 20, 2008 at 7:41 pm #67555*Nick*
MemberBrilliant Dude! Totally forgot about the Boykin! 8)
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