exercising the mind – free shaping

[KarenM]

yippee it’s a sticky! (thank you, Kiz!)

[kizkiznobite]

you welcome – not bad typing for an oldie with a frozen shoulder haha

[Anonymous]

brilliant kiz – this is next on my list (once we get the blasted bow!!! we are nearly there!!) honeys pretty good at offering up behavoirs so i reckon she will learn loads this way!!  ;D

[kizkiznobite]

when she lies down does she do front feet first or back feet first and when she gets up is is bum first or front feet first? are you trying to use a verbal cue for the bow?

[Anonymous]

sometimes front sometimes back!!! but she gets up bum first!!

nope just a visual at the moment shes got it – just not very reliable whether she does it or not!!! mainly cos she is too busy trying out other stuff to get the reward!!!

[kizkiznobite]

oh joly  :D….. if she getting up bum first….. then there is a bow – mark it and reward at that point before the full stand – then cue it 😀

[Anonymous]

ok kiz – never thought of trying it that way lol  ::)  ;D

[Anonymous]

Is there a certain age that you can start freeshaping ???

[kizkiznobite]

mmm – yeah – about 8 weeks  ;D

use his food bowl as the intro – he knows that! sometimes deliver the treat into the bowl sometimes at the side and sometimes away – so he begins to understand it is reaction to the bowl with a behaviour and not the bowl itself xx

[Anonymous]

ooooh ok that will be great!!! :-*

[Gracie]

just want to add to this that there is no need to rush, or to move the exercise on before the dog is ready as this is what i was doing, i was going to fast so gracie didnt have time to test the behaviours,
so ie nose to ring i went look at ring click reward, look again click reward, go to ring click reward, go to ring again click reward, touch ring with paw click reward, touch again with paw click reward, nose to ring click reward then paw to ring and i didnt click reward, when i should have done
maybe someone can explain this better for me,but basically doing that make gracie go off on a bug hunt as she lost her motivation, because i was going too fast and making it harder for her

is this right bev??

[kizkiznobite]

yeah you have to allow the dog to test the behaviours – and work out the final wanted behaviour by denying clicks for what they been doing in order for the dog to think ok mmmmmi am close but not quite there – this is where the abacab helps as the human get’s to work this through

[Anonymous]

hi,

my little paw is raised too on this one – trying to locate bonnie … moving it on too fast 🙁 

results in

1. frustrated human

2. confused unmotivated dog

Claire x

[kk_xing]

me and my dogs always confused lol!!!

i did free shaping to learn xing retrieve! (not a breed quality)

[Gracie]

how do i freeshape gracie to tough object with back paw?
front paws, ans mouth, and sweaking the ball are no probs, but trying to get her to touch, put back foot in a ring?? help! she has only offered the behaviour once, which i clicked, and my clicking is getting good to!! clicked as her foot was on the ring, but she never put the two together back foot got the click!
so any ideas how i can get this one or is it just case of waiting it out! because she would need to put her back foot on lots of times in a row before i  can stop clicking the from paws?

also now with freeshaping she keep focused on me, she doesnt go off chasing flies or generally mess about, so am thinking maybe getting too easy, so i put down 3 objects, 2 balls diff colours and a teddy, wanted to touch green ball, she did well, then tested with blue ball, then went back to green. we only managed about 5 mins of this maybe not even that long – had to do some close recalls, to keep focus, and then she went back to green ball hugh bingo, well done etc, and i left it at that!
am i going to fast? not planning on doing multiple abjects all the time, but just to get her really thinking!

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