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October 2, 2007 at 2:57 pm #75915
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GuestI have never found myself in this situation but i would think the best way to avoid it would be to vet the breeders before you agree to buy from them. I am sure the Kennel Club would be able to tell you if the breeder has registered any recent litters with them.
I had no doubts with my breeder but then i had done a lot of research before buying and they had a very good reputation as accredited breeders with the KC.
October 2, 2007 at 3:09 pm #75916GuestYou may have done your homework but you would be suprised I am sure at the amount of owners that think they have covered the bases only to find out they have not brought a KC registered pup, some of these so called breeders are very clever at dancing around the true
Val[quote author=Relay link=topic=9518.msg174405#msg174405 date=1191337052]
I have never found myself in this situation but i would think the best way to avoid it would be to vet the breeders before you agree to buy from them. I am sure the Kennel Club would be able to tell you if the breeder has registered any recent litters with them.I had no doubts with my breeder but then i had done a lot of research before buying and they had a very good reputation as accredited breeders with the KC.
[/quote]October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm #75917Sweetypye
MemberI agree and as for kc accredited breeders, well the less said about this scheme the better. It is seen as a mark of quality by novices but not by the cognoscenti!
October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm #75918GuestHere Here they have a few puppy farms and commerical breeders flashing that waste of space
[quote author=Sweetypye link=topic=9518.msg174428#msg174428 date=1191342719]
I agree and as for kc accredited breeders, well the less said about this scheme the better. It is seen as a mark of quality by novices but not by the cognoscenti!
[/quote]October 4, 2007 at 5:23 pm #75919GuestWell done for all being so positive guys. LOL
October 4, 2007 at 5:25 pm #75920Guest[quote author=Val link=topic=9518.msg174410#msg174410 date=1191337771]
You may have done your homework[/quote]
Precisely – i did!
October 5, 2007 at 10:03 pm #75921Brainless
MemberI would always check any breeder with the national and/or Regional breed clubs. Most reputable breeders will be members of one or more breed clubs and be known to the people in the breed and the reputable ones will be known and respected (if not liked) by their peers.
October 7, 2007 at 4:58 pm #75922InactiveI would not say the kennel club list is perfect, but it is better than just an advert in your local corner shop sales board. The first thing the KC list will ensure is that the litter is KC registered. I get so many people with the same story of the pup they bought from their local paper was advertised as KC reg, but no papers have been provided by the breeder.
May 7, 2008 at 5:30 am #75923Strutt-a-Mutt
Member[quote author=Sweetypye link=topic=9518.msg174428#msg174428 date=1191342719]
I agree and as for kc accredited breeders, well the less said about this scheme the better. It is seen as a mark of quality by novices but not by the cognoscenti!
[/quote]By going to a KCAB (lists available from the Kennel Club) you are assured of getting what is advertised. KCABs have to undertaken various health screening ie HD & ED scoring, eye tests, DNA Profiling for their particular breed. The code of ethics states that all relevent papers are handed over at the time of buying. Each new buyer is given an information sheet issued by the KC to the KCAB breeder which, in turn the buyer completes and returns to the Kennel Club. This is a report about the breeder stating amonst other things, whether information was handed over, if the breeder was helpful etc. etc. If the customer is not satisfied they state that. The breeder does not see these reports until you get an inspection from the KC.
It is easy to blame the breeders for everything but potential buyers should do their research fully before hand and check all certificates etc as proof to the breeder/advertisers claims before parting with any money.
You are buying goods and are covered under the Trade Description Act etc.
May 7, 2008 at 12:10 pm #75924GSPmad
MemberMy flatcoat came from a KCAB – the one with patellar luxation (problem in the breed), heart murmur (which has now gone) and hypothyroidism…. As I understand it the KC only specify certain health tests to be done, not necessarily including or making mention of suitable or appropriate results. There is very little policing of the scheme as I don’t think they have sufficient people available to do so. I have actually written them a letter asking them to clarify these points but haven’t got it sent yet owing to other things going on – but I will. 😉
I know someone from another forum who got a dog from a KCAB – hip dysplasia and patellar luxation, and the breeder didn’t want to know. My other dog’s breeder became a KCAB when the scheme started, but I have been told that she is now under investigation from the RSPCA (and yes the KC have taken KCAB status off her…). KCAB may well have been introduced to help improve the situation of poorly bred non health tested dogs – but so far imo it has not done a lot, except people believe it means they will get a quality puppy – which it does not necessarily. >:D
Rant over.
May 7, 2008 at 12:33 pm #75925MemberIf the KCAB is so good, how is it that ANYONE can become one even BEFORE they have bred a litter?
Sorry but the KCAB scheme is not worth the paper it is written on.
I do not blame breeders for MY mistakes; I purchase from those who have a history of competence; the KCAB annotation to a breeder’s name means NOTHING unless it is accompanied by proof of competence ie skills, knowledge, ability, training and experience.
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May 7, 2008 at 1:55 pm #75926GuestThe KCAB was slung together by the KC as a way of making money, good breeders do not have to be recommended to do health checks they DO them.
The KC would be better off spending some of their time stopping the registration of pet puppies and puppy farmers dogs rather than thinking up new ways of making money.
ValMay 7, 2008 at 4:32 pm #75927MemberIt is like saying you are a KC Accredited Instructor when you have never trained a dog.
Fortunately THIS scheme IS monitored and assessed correctly
May 7, 2008 at 5:02 pm #75928Member[quote author=Sweetypye link=topic=9518.msg214651#msg214651 date=1210177933]
It is like saying you are a KC Accredited Instructor when you have never trained a dog.Fortunately THIS scheme IS monitored and assessed correctly
[/quote]And how is Joe Public meant to know that one scheme is and one isn’t, and that KC reg may still be poorly bred and that KCAB may still be poorly bred? :-\
May 7, 2008 at 5:13 pm #75929GuestAt the end of the day it’s all about research if you do that well enough then you are home and dry.
I would never support the KCAB I know some of the people that are in it ::) as far as I am concerned the KC kicked the responsible breeders right in the teeth they made it sound like you have to be a member to be any good.
Hope the KC spy is reading this and reporting back
Val[quote author=GSPmad link=topic=9518.msg214662#msg214662 date=1210179772]
[quote author=Sweetypye link=topic=9518.msg214651#msg214651 date=1210177933]
It is like saying you are a KC Accredited Instructor when you have never trained a dog.Fortunately THIS scheme IS monitored and assessed correctly
[/quote]And how is Joe Public meant to know that one scheme is and one isn’t, and that KC reg may still be poorly bred and that KCAB may still be poorly bred? :-\
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